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  Where to go for the 'Deep Things'?

  by cobweb in

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  as someone who has been out a while, i wondered what publications a jw would turn to now if they want to do serious bible research.

  are there any meaty jw publications left?

  i haven't heard of the insight books being revised.

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  Half banana

  So simple minded is the JW org that it imagines that by reading their propaganda this amounts to "research". There is no research possible within the JW org just "beliefs" and obedience.

  If you want some honest research, try Professor Thomas L Thompson's books. He mainly considers the OT not from wrangling a meaning from the Bible but by looking at the sociological context in which the Bible writers lived using archaeology, and contemporary text and stone inscriptions to identify the prevailing ideas at the historical time of writing.

  Professor Thompson is uncompromising when it comes to evidence however painful the consequences. His PhD dissertation was refused by his adjudicator, later to become Pope Ratzinger, because his research denied the authenticity of Catholic doctrine.
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  Youtube video

  by Phoebe in

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  2. friends

  not sure if this has been mentioned before so admin feel free to take this down, but i just watched this interview.

  i always love exjwfith's interviews but this one particularly grabbed me.

  pedro (broken kite) not sure if you are on here but wow, what a story you had to tell.

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  Half banana

  Thanks for posting this Phoebe, an excellent story Pedro has to tell.
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  JW Baptism Anullment

  by Farmer Jim1 in

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  2. friends

  has anyone ever successfully annulled their jw baptism?

  especially if they were very young when baptised?.

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  Half banana

  If someone wants to annul their JW baptism, it would indicate that they think that it still has meaning. Surely it only has meaning to JWs?
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  It Might Have Hit The Fan

  by VW.org in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i haven't associated with the jws for at least 6 months.

  they do not know that i am an apostate.

  maybe till just now becaue i was browsing reddit and stumbled upon a story from a paper about $4000 a day fine imposed upon watchtower.

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  Half banana

  If the elder is your friend he won't be now! It might have been better to approach him with the idea of confidentially sharing the information on the fine rather than baiting him with an anti JW story. Perhaps you did it because it seemed exciting. Anyway I hope you get an interesting response-- but of course gung-ho JWs run on theocratic rails which means you will be targeted as a disloyal apostate. Never mind it's only JWs who will be against you and that's like being savaged by a dead sheep.
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  Reveal Article, Nov. 16, 2017: Jehovah’s Witnesses’ tab for child sex abuse secrecy: $2M and counting

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-tab-for-child-sex-abuse-secrecy-2m-and-counting/.

  jehovah's witnesses' tab for child sex abuse secrecy $2m and counting.

  by trey bundy / november 16, 2017. .

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  Half banana

  I sincerely with all my heart want everyone associated with JW..org to wake up and LEAVE.

  Absolutely Lois!

  Only an organisation with shameful secrets would want to defy the law and refuse to hand over documents. Not only this but defying the law is against Bible teaching, why are they in denial about this?

  Is it because there are brothers in positions of authority who will be revealed for their shameful past?
  
  
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  My unbelieving husband was offended by the WatchTower just studied

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it was the paragraph talking about people who don't want to be j.w's being executed, and it being an act of compassion from jehovah towards his witnesses..

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  Half banana

  Nicolao, thank you for producing this portentous 'puffball' statement from the Watchtower.

  Nothing here has any provable meaning to a rational mind, its only purpose was to control the thoughts of their flock.
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  "we would never deliberately distort a quotation"

  by ttdtt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  omg my head exploded!in this months broadcast - splian goes off on how much care the wt in making sure its facts are correct, and how they make sure their quotes are not taking from people who have a bad reputation or have an agenda.

  and that the make sure its always in context!.

  they are such liars!.

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  Half banana

  There is nothing scholarly about JW teachings-- far from it! The idea they are pushing is obviously to answer legitimate criticism that they were misapplying the meaning or inference in the work of serious writers. The result is to give the impression to their captive flock that their nasty propaganda is scholarly and accurate.

  To be authoritative you need to accurately quote, not just from any old writer but from academic sources which are peer reviewed. JW writers entirely miss the importance of this.

  What though is the use of meticulously quoted books for the purpose of untruthful propaganda?

  Note they do not try to discover anything new or push the boundaries of knowledge let alone delve into the true origins of Bible texts. Their whole purpose is to justify their precious doctrines which are equivalent to the useless goods which snake oil merchants peddle.
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  Superpower after perfection?

  by The Real Edward Gentry in

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  2. friends

  there is much speculation about our perfect life ahead.

  a big way jw's are wrong is they do not allow for the human need to specualte on this life ahead.

  except for governing body, no one else can speculate.

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  Half banana

  REG, I think you should post on JW Org sites, your humour will go down a treat there.
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  Bethel Dwelling Manual (2004 Edition, 2012 Printing)

  by thebrokenkite in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a peace offering to those recently questioning if i'm undercover, though new conspiracies may surface.

  ;) please excuse the ongoing construction of the site and enjoy!.

  http://thebrokenkite.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/dwelling-together-in-unity.pdf.

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  Half banana

  One of the many nauseating things about the JW org is that it cannot resist preaching to its members at all times!

  Instead of being a straightforward practical manual in common language for living at HQ, it coerces staff by using out of context quotes from the Bible.

  What a dire cult!
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  Understanding Armageddon

  by Jayk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so will armageddon be the biblical one we read about or is it probably going to be a government ban on christians that we will perceive as armageddon?

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  Half banana

  There was supposed to have been a significant war at the plain of Megiddo. For the locals it became a byword for a decisive war. Later religiously minded writers used the war at Megiddo as a picture of final conflict between good and evil. This was purely a religious vision not based in fact or reason.

  Not a million miles away (2450 miles actually!) from Megiddo in Northern India sits another battlefield in a region called Kurukshetra, the site of the greatest battle in the Mahabharata. To Hindus this much older epic war carries the same meaning as Armageddon did to the inhabitants of Canaan-- but stories are not prophetic and there is no reason to believe in a big showdown between good and evil.

  The whole belief thing is rooted in imagination and human yearnings for something better..